Tag: Logic an Anti-Gunner’s Worst Nightmare

Another Take on Bloomberg’s Gun Show Antics

Snowflakes in Hell has a nice little write up on Bloomberg’s latest little stunt. All in all it’s summed up greatly by the last paragraph:

What’s really disgusting about Bloomberg’s tactics, is none of these transactions and dealers shown here have anything to do with gun show loophole. It’s illegal to operate as a gun dealer, for livelihood and profit, without a Federal Firearms License. It’s illegal to knowingly sell guns to criminals. In all of these cases shown, they could be prosecuted under current laws. But he’s not going to tell you that, because the goal is to get rid of gun shows.

The so-called gun show loophole is more accurately known as a private individual selling their own property to another private individual. See the federal government claims the reason they have a right to control guns is due to the commerce clause. It’s stated in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution and states:

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

It relates to powers of Congress only. It grants Congress the power to regulate inter-state commerce. The claims are wide and varied but suffice to say since guns are usually built in one state and sold in another if falls under inter-state commerce according to the federal government. Since it falls under inter-state commerce they feel they have the power to regulate it as much as they can. This is what state laws like Montana’s Firearms Freedom Act are all about. They state guns produce, sold, and used inside the state of Montana should be free of federal regulation. Likewise if you are selling your gun to another person in the state it’s not inter-state commerce and hence the reason the federal government is unable to regulate it. Since these type of sales are exempt from federal regulations they do not require the seller to perform a NICS check,which would be illegal anyways.

I’ve covered this in my Truth About Guns podcast but I will state in here as well. Bloomberg and his posse are saying we should require private sellers to run background checks on buyers. The problem is private individuals are not legally allowed to do so only Federal Firearm License holders are allowed to access it. From the FBI itself:

Authorized use of the NICS is limited to the purpose of obtaining information on whether receipt of a firearm by a prospective transferee would violate federal or state law.

FFLs, their officers, employees, agents, and/or other representatives are permitted to request background checks of the NICS only for the authorized purpose.

Accessing or using the NICS, or permitting access or use of the NICS by another, for any unauthorized purpose is a violation of federal law, sanctions for which may include criminal prosecution; a civil fine not to exceed $10,000, and/or cancellation of NICS inquiry privileges.

So FFLs, their officers, employees, agents, and/or other representatives are permitted to request background checks. Likewise allowing any other person to access the NICS is punishable by a fine up to $10,000. The only way to access the NICS system is to get an account and in order to do that you need a Federal Firearms License.

Since it’s impossible for a private dealer to access the NICS system they can not run a background check. Hence the only way to legally require a background check is to force all sales to go through a licensed dealer. This is to say in order to sell your own property you would require the involvement of a third party. That is akin to saying it’s not your own property. Imagine if you had to go through a dealership every time you wanted to sell a car.

Since car accidents kill more people than guns every year (by a wide margin) wouldn’t it make sense to require a federal license to sell automobiles? That way a background check could be performed on potential buyers and if they had a past history of criminal behavior you could deny them access to one of the biggest means of death in this country. See how stupid it sounds when applied to cars? Why is it any different from guns? Remember automobiles are involved in far more deaths every year.

The bottom line is the anti-gun crowd wants to abolish gun shows. Not because they are a potential source for criminals to get their guns (very very VERY few criminals get their guns from gun shows, Snowflakes in Hell has the information on that). No it’s because that’s where those of us fighting for our right to keep and bear arms congregate. The only way to stop a movement is to break up the crowd. The anti-gun crowd is trying this through multiple angles such as pitting hunters against those of us who use guns for self defense.

Likewise I believe they are jealous since they lack a show type to congregate. Maybe they should start having anti-gun shows. I can see it now a place full of like minded people not buying guns. They could have tables empty and devoid of firearms and firearms accessories. I’m sure that would get a huge attendance.

Brady Campaign Sticking Fingers in Ears and Saying “I Can’t Hear You” Loudly

Days of Our Trailers lets us know the Brady Bunch are in denial. Super Douche, Paul Helmke, has reportedly stuck his fingers in his hears and began screaming “I can’t hear you” as loudly as possible. Although highly annoying to both of his fellows at the Brady Bunch Headquarters they were able to type up a press release:

“The Chicago case is unlikely to have much practical impact on most gun laws regardless of how the Court rules. Even if the Court were to hold the Second Amendment applicable to states and localities, such a ruling is unlikely to change the crucial holding by the Supreme Court in Heller that a wide range of reasonable gun laws are presumptively constitutional, and that the Second Amendment right is narrowly limited to guns in the home for self-defense. Since the Heller decision, the gun lobby and criminals have brought at least 170 challenges to gun laws or to block criminal gun prosecutions. With only a handful of exceptions, those challenges have failed.”

After reading this and believing it Paul Helmke reportedly stopped yelling but still left his fingers in his ears. Both his staff reportedly said they prefer him like this because it prevents him from throwing his feces around the office.

Nation Firearms Act, Screwing Over Those Who Comply Since 1934

Walls of the City shows us even if you try to comply with the National Firearms Act you should be bloody careful because purchasing the wrong accessory will make you no longer compliant. See Jesus Amador Jr. had a H&K SP89 pistol. He also owned a vertical grip for it which makes it an any other weapon under the NFA. But Mr. Amador is a good law abiding citizen and jumped through all the hoops to properly register the gun with the ATF.

The problem is that even though it was properly registered as an any other weapon he also possessed a butt stock for the pistol. Well he decided to sell the pistol with the vertical grip and butt stock attachments. What he didn’t know was the person buying it was an undercover agent and all the hoops jumped through didn’t mean shit. See because he had a butt stock attachment the gun needed to be re-registered as a short barreled rifle instead of an any other weapon. Mr. Amador didn’t know this and figured if he registered his pistol as an NFA weapon he was good to go. This sums up the story appropriately:

Well folks my name is Jesus Amador, you out there might just know me as Digitalage03, i recently met up with a prospected buyer for my sp89 clone pistol, well turns out the guy was a undercover cop and the reason he wanted to meet up with me is because he saw that i was selling the pistol with a stock as one of the accessories, which by the way it was never on the gun and it is legal to own, you just cant install it without a tax stamp, well anyways once i met up with him not only did i get slammed to the ground and had about 7 armed cops (one of which) had a loaded 12ga to the back of my head while on the ground handcuffed they also illegally searched my car and even had the balls to drive off in my car from private property to a public place so they can tear thru it before the towtruck came and got ,

Thankfully the police apparently fucked up big time with the arrest which is probably the only thing that will save Mr. Amador from a long prison sentence for having the gall to own a butt stock attachment for his pistol. Anybody who says the National Firearms Act is a good law and doesn’t affect innocent people is a fucking moron.

Lies, Damned Lies, and the Anti-Gunner Statistics

Joe Huffman shows us once again how the anti-gun crowd lies. According to a web site ironically containing the word logic in the title over 500 children die each year due to gun related accidents. Bad news for the anti-gunners, the Center foe Disease Control tracks such information. And of course their statistic is right if you redefine children to be anybody 54 years of age or younger. Once again the anti-gunners show they don’t just stretch the truth they redefine it completely.

Further Research

CDC National Vital Statistics Report for 2006 [PDF]

Sure We’ll Lighten Up After You Stop Lying

Snowflakes in Hell brings us a rather amusing piece provided by the “un-bias” media. The media is telling the NRA (that would be us) to lighten up on the mayors. We all know Mayors Against Illegal Guns is an organization purposely named in a deceptive manner to increase their numbers. Over 50 mayors have been stricken from their roster already. The NRA has been pushing hard against them every since Bloomberg decided to push hard against the NRA.

Here’s my response to the media’s request. Sure we’ll lighten up the second you and Bloomberg’s posse stop lying about the purpose of the organization and who is in it.

Connection Established Between Bloomberg’s Posse and the Brady Bunch

Wow Sebastian and Bitter from Snowflakes in Hell do amazing work. They have been taking the war to Mayors Against Illegal Guns faster than anybody else I know of. A great post there made by Bitter establishes the connection between Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Brady Campaign. This is a big deal since Bloomberg is trying to make it appear as though his posse isn’t an anti-gun organization but a group only against illegal guns. Of course we know that’s not true.

Keep up the good work you two.

My Truth About Guns Podcast is Live

Set the way back machine to roughly a month ago. I mentioned I was working on a gun rights project that I was going to unveil shortly after I mentioned it. Well it’s been delayed a bit but it is now live. Truth About Guns is live and episode one is up and running.

The podcast is where I take anti-gun articles and use published facts to disprove the lies, half-truths, and statistical abuses. Each episode will have the citations I used posted on the website. Anyways more information is available on the podcast page so take a jump and have a listen.

In New York Dictators have More Right than You

Welcome to Mayor Bloomberg’s home, New York. Here the only people allowed to carry guns are the police, criminals, and foreign dictators. The latest episode of No Agenda started out with Adam Curry talking about the gun toting body cards of Libya’s own dictator. It seems Moammar Khadafy travels with an entourage of 40 to 50 armed women. Furthermore they will be in Manhattan for the United Nations General Assembly.

I hope you feel good about New York now because you, as a regular citizen, have less rights in that city than foreign dictators.

Why Firearm Registration is a Bad Idea

Rob Allen reminds us again why gun registration is a bad thing. It has nothing to do with controlling illegal guns or protecting the public. The only thing gun registration facilitates is later confiscation by the government when they decide you no longer should own guns.

A classic example is Nazi controller Germany. And before somebody goes shooting their mouth off about Godwin’s law you better look it up (it only applies when incorrectly comparing your opponent to Adolf Hitler or Nazis, not when bringing up historical facts). But the Nazis required the registration of firearms before World War II then subsequently confiscated them. Had the persecuted population of Germany (Jewish, gypsies, homosexuals, and pretty much anybody else they could blame for something) been armed it would have been much more difficult for the Nazis to enact their “final solution.” I’ll close this out with a great quote by the lat Jeff Cooper:

The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.

Gun confiscation is the opening act to tyranny because without an unarmed populace tyranny can not exist.

Who Needs Guns for Protection When You Have Paper

That the question governor of self-defense hating Illinois asks. Via The War on Guns comes a story about a new bill that was passed in Illinois meant to help victims protect themselves. At least that’s what they say it means but in actuality it doesn’t. Recently passed House Bill 693 will allows the following:

“By allowing victims to obtain an order of protection early on from their predators, the problem may be resolved before it reaches that next level.”

Yup their idea of providing protection is to make obtaining a piece of paper easier. This is coming from the same state that says the best methods women can use to defend themselves are vomit, scream, or surrender. Notice how none of those three options will really defend somebody against an attacker?

I have a proposition for a method Illinois can enable to help people protect themselves against predators. Pass a bill that not only allows citizens of Illinois to legally carry a firearm but also make it a shall issue law. That piece of paper known as a restraining order won’t do shit if the predator decided to attack you. On the other hand I’m yet to meet somebody who won’t reconsider their actions when a gun is aimed at them and I’m yes to meet somebody who can continue an attack when they are dead.

Providing a means for the government to offer defense to people is useless if the government won’t provide body guards to those protected people 24/7. Passing laws that enable people to take responsibility for their well being into their own hands is worthwhile.