Tag: Logic an Anti-Gunner’s Worst Nightmare

Why Would You Carry in a Park

Because not all bad guys are two-legged. Folk singer Taylor Michell was attacked and died from wounds inflicted by coyotes. This was a rather surprising headline for me to read as it’s very rare for coyotes to actively interact with humans in general. It’s incredibly rare that they attack human, but it does happen.

When the anti-gunners ask why we want to carry our guns in national parks point to stories like this. Mother nature doesn’t fuck around, yelling at a bear to stop isn’t going to make them stop. Humans in general are pretty frail and we’re not built for killing like most predatory animals and hence we need tools to go up against those types of critters. Punching and biting a bear isn’t going to accomplish shit, putting a few rounds of .454 casull into it very much may stop it.

Protect the Children with Talking Points

Snowflakes in Hell points out Michigan senator Carl Levin knows how to use talking points. The senator sent a letter to the president titled, “Guns Hurt Our Children The Most.” It’s full of such great arguments as:

Mr. President, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 3,184 children and teens died from a firearm in the United States in 2006, a six percent increase from 2005. This breaks down to the life of an American child being taken every two hours and 45 minutes by someone wielding a gun. More than five times as many, or nearly 17,500 children and teens suffered a non-fatal gun injury that year, a seven percent increase from the previous year.

Senator Levin’s solution? It’s this:

They also recommend passage of such common sense gun safety legislation as closing the gun show loophole, strengthening the Brady background check system and reauthorizing the assault weapons ban.

I highly doubt senator Levin knows what the gun show “loophole” actually is. It’s no a loophole at all but a fact of constitutional law that states congress can only regulate interstate commerce and dealings with foreign countries. If two people in the same state make a transaction congress can’t do shit about it.

Likewise how can you strengthen the Brady background check? The system can already single handedly deny a person their right to bear arms. How can you get much stronger? Allow a denial from a background check to land somebody in prison? Seriously I wish representatives would think before they talk.

Finally what the Hell is banning “assault” weapons going to accomplish? Most murders and accidents are done with handguns not long arms. You would think that anti-gunners would be going after handguns instead. And this is one of their fatal flaws they don’t use logic in their crusade against our rights and the truth.

If You Carry Always Carry

Well Caleb over a Gun Nuts had an encounter with the knife wielding criminal kind. His method of self defense was quite good in that there was the use of a projectile weapon that persuaded the criminal to stop. The projectile weapon in this case was coffee followed by a Beretta aimed at the would be mugger now a coffee soaked running man.

This happened in broad daylight in a parking lot which goes to show bad guys can appear anywhere at any time. If you carry always carry (unless you legally can’t or will get fired for doing it).

I Think We Have More People

Joe Huffman does a quick Internet approved survey to determine popularity between the gun rights crowd and the anti-gunners. He uses the number of followers each have on Twitter which is the Internet excepted method of determining everything.

Well we’re winning. In fact the Brady Bunch’s actual Twitter account is almost eclipsed in popularity by Mr. Huffman’s own daughter. Of course Mr. Huffman doesn’t take into consideration another possible meaning behind this. Anti-gunners are too stupid to understand how to use a service that involves sending 140 character messages. I guess typing is hard for any group of people who are using both of their hands to cover their ears while they scream, “I CAN’T HEAR YOU LA LA LA!” at the stop of their lungs.

People Want End to Mandatory Law Requiring Swiss Citizens to Own Military Rifles

Once again Says Uncle links to another interesting story. Apparently some whiny bitches concerned citizens are looking to change the law in Switzerland that requires males serving in the military to store a military rifle at home. Because of research what happens when you disarm a country I’m bias against laws restricting firearms. But I’m also willing to hear the debate so let’s take a look at both sides. First off the side of logical thought civilians owning guns:

But it wasn’t the militia that sparked Heim’s interest in guns as young man. It was an unassuming trip to a holocaust museum.

HEIM: I was going through all the exhibits and the soaps and the lampshades made of people’s skin, and while I was looking, I heard a funny noise, and there was an old woman, maybe two metres from me. She was trying not to cry. She was sort of sobbing very quietly. She was sort of holding it back. If she had been a few more meters away I wouldn’t have heard her. And that’s when it all hit me. I promised myself I will never be in her situation. I would want to be free and never in a situation where they could just march us off to ovens or prisons.or just take away our freedom.

Heim gets it. See Nazi Germany required civilians to register all guns with the government. Shortly afterwards the government confiscated all the registered guns. After the guns were confiscated and the civilian populace was defenseless the government started rounding up “undesirables” and sending them to death camps where they were gassed by the millions. Had the civilian populace been armed they could have fought back against the government.

OK let’s hear the other side of the argument:

However, not everyone sees guns the same way.

While gun crime is relatively low in Switzerland, more than 300 people a year are killed military rifles, the majority of them suicides. Recently efforts for more regulation have been picking up. And a certain faction of people want military rifles stored in army barracks, rather than peoples cellars.

So you’re saying that people taking their own lives with firearms is justification for disarming the populace? I have a newsflash for those who think this, people taking their own lives can do so without a gun. If a lack of guns had anything to do with suicide rates how to you explain Japan where guns are practically forbidden but the suicide rate is very high? This might come as a surprise but if I wanted to kill myself I could hang myself or slit my wrists with a knife. But the harsh truth of the matter is if somebody takes their own life that is their business and so long as they aren’t trying to take somebody else with them it’s their choice. Meanwhile if you disarm the populace you create a situation where people can not defend themselves against an outside force meaning to do harm.

Also the sheer idiocy of trying to compare 300 deaths by firearms to six MILLION deaths by government hands is ludicrous at best. Those deaths in Switzerland are .005% of the number of deaths caused by the Nazi government in Germany. How can people say the situation of a disarmed populace is better? How can people honestly be that stupid?

The Danger of Gun Registration

I hear a lot of anti-gunners say there is no harm in gun registration. In fact there is, the government knows what you have. Because they know what you have they may decide to go door knocking and search your inventory. Don’t think it can happen? Days of our Trailers will prove otherwise. There are reports of Maryland police questioning citizens about their guns. Remember in Maryland you have to register semi-automatic military pattern rifles and handguns firearm. From the article:

According to the Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore (AGC) has received several verified reports of the Maryland State Police questioning citizens about the firearms they legally own.

These incidents involve citizens and firearms that have no apparent connection to any crime, or any illegal activity.

Yup no real reason behind these inquires, they apparently just feel like doing it.

Mexico Still Screaming for United States to Disarm

Fuck I really hate the current president of Mexico. He’s got a huge problem with the drug cartels and his logical choice of action is to blame the United States. I know what you’re thinking this is old news and I’m several months behind on my reporting. Nope bad news from Says Uncle the president of Mexico and a couple former ambassadors are at it again. They say:

The Binational Task Force on the United States-Mexico Border listed the assault weapons ban as a step the U.S. should take immediately to improve security in both countries. The 10-year ban expired in 2004.

Really? BOTH countries? What benefit will it provide us in the form of security? Looking at the FBI murder weapon rates the number of murders in 2008 with firearms is only 99 people higher than 2004. But the number of people killed with rifles (as so-called assault weapons fall under) is actually 28 people lower in 2008.

If these “assault weapons” were so dangerous and a threat to security the number of rifle murders since 2004, when the ban lifted, should be noticeably higher. In fact since 2004 the number of murders committed with firearms in general has been pretty stable.

Further why would the drug cartels come here to get semi-automatic rifle when they can go to Mexico’s neighbors to get fully-automatic rifles for CHEAPER? That makes no logical sense. If the president of Mexico wants to unfuck his nation he’s going to root out corruption there, not attempt to restrict the rights of another country.

Mandatory Services Equal Money

Walls of the City points out a little fact involving supply and demand. Apparently some federally licensed gun dealers are all for abolishing private sales between individuals (the anti-gun lobby coins this the “gun show loophole” even those it has nothing to do with gun shows or loopholes). Why would an FFL holder do such a thing? Aren’t they in the fight for the second amendment?

Well think about the service they provide. Think about it. If you haven’t come to the answer yet hit the link and read the post.

Another of Our Own Lost

Man I’m late with this news but alas it’s posted now. Gun rights activist Meleanie Hain was murdered by her husband. There is a good write up over at The Brenda Fallacy.

Likewise Random Nuclear Strikes shows us the “peace loving” anti-gun crowd is already dancing in the blood and proclaiming how happy they are that a gun rights activist was shot to death. Don’t believe me head over to the last linked article and read comments like this one by Doughh:

No offense but now there are 2 less right wing wacko gun nuts running around. Do feel sorry for the kids though.

Apparently Meleanie had become worried in recent times that her husband was becoming dangerous. It seems her husband had become abusive and she was making an attempt to leave him taking their two kids with her. In the end the bastard shot her and himself but by sheer fortune didn’t bring harm to either of their children.

Although we have a ton of “peace loving” anti-gunners dancing up and down a user going by the name of graycoyote tells us some very important details:

You’re conveniently leaving out a couple of details.

1) Scott Hain, not Meleanie, fired the first shot. She had privately confided with several of her friends that Scott was become more abusive and controlling of her life, and she was considering divorcing him and taking her two kids (2 and 6). It appears that early indications is that she told him that she was divorcing him, so he shot her with HIS service weapon from work.

2) Scott Hain was both a corrections officer and a parole officer, and officially considered a law enforcement officer under PA law. So a cop shot his wife with his service weapon, essentially.

3) All of you assholes who are just absolutely gleeful that she was killed, or it is some sort of lesson to be learned here that “guns shouldn’t have been as available to allow stuff like this to happen”, Scott Hain was a cop, who would be untouched by a majority of gun control laws even in places like DC, Chicago, and New York.

Yup no amount of gun control laws would have prevented this as her husband was a cop who qualified to carry a service gun.

Anyways for the few of you who haven’t heard of Meleanie she made the news a while back by exercising her second amendment right at a soccer game. The anti-gun crowd shit their pants proclaiming she was being irresponsible carrying a gun that close to *gasp* CHILDREN! In actuality nobody was shot and if somebody had been there to cause anybody harm Meleanie would have been able to give the attendees a fighting chance.

Hopefully her children make it through this with some semblance of sanity left.

The Anti-Gunners Sure are Grade A Assholes

Sometimes you find stories that make your blood boil. This is one of those stories via Says Uncle. A man who worked for Planco, a subsidiary of Hartford, was fired for looking at web sites that listed gun parts. Note the firing wasn’t even due to some mislead company policy against looking at websites that aren’t specifically work related:

When Jackson was searching the Web for a replacement shotgun stock, supervisor Christie Vazquez — who admitted in a subsequent deposition to being “very anti-gun” and had quarreled with him before about politics — noticed what he was doing. Vazquez said she was scared because it was only a few weeks after the Virginia Tech massacre (see CBS News video), so she promptly reported her colleague’s Web browsing to Planco’s human resources department. Vazquez also informed the HR department that Jackson owned guns and was a member of the National Rifle Association.

Can you find the logic in this:

There is no evidence that Jackson was a violent person, and Davis later acknowledged that the list of Web sites were shopping sites that didn’t have any violent pictures or anything that alarmed her. Nevertheless, Vazquez and another supervisor claimed they were concerned for their safety, and Planco fired Jackson six days later.

Didn’t think so. And of course Jackson even escorted Vazquez in a bad neighborhood as he had a carry permit:

The lawsuit, filed by Exton, Penn. attorney Mark Scheffer, noted that Jackson and supervisor Vazquez had — at least at one point — enjoyed a friendly relationship. Jackson, who has a legal concealed carry permit in Pennsylvania, accompanied Vazquez when she was hunting for apartments in dodgy areas of Philadelphia. He gave her a tour of the Philadelphia Inquirer, where he used to work, and took Vazquez to a shooting range and showed her how to use a gun. (She confirmed in a later deposition (PDF) that she enjoyed the outing.) Another employee who worked in the same department said he heard Vazquez ask Jackson about purchasing a handgun for protection.

Some thanks there. The anti-gun crowd always claim they are against violence but they really mean they are against violence unless they can have a proxy do it. It’s OK to have a friend escort you through a bad neighborhood if they are able to carry a gun. It’s OK for the police to show up and shoot a home invader. Seriously I hate hypocrites and the anti-gun crowd are the biggest hypocrites out there.

I’m glad I work at a company where a good chunk of the employees are pro-gun and gun owners. On top of that I’m pretty well known as “the gun guy” and have become a resource for a couple people looking to purchase firearms or get carry permits.